lesclaypool61
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| posted on 4-24-2004 at 09:13 PM |
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forkball
Im in high school and i throw a knuckler, but today i was working on my fork ball. I was throwing it and about every 5 times i threw it it had
knuckleball like rotation(1-2 spins before coming to the plate). My dad also said that it was had side to side flutter also. I know on the
Knuckleball 101 section it says that it is possible, but is it common to have knuckleball like movement on a forkball?
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Taylor
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| posted on 4-25-2004 at 03:59 AM |
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mine has that movement...i've just been having a terrible time controlling it lately
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Devils #37
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| posted on 4-26-2004 at 08:39 PM |
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There's another pitcher on my team that throws a Forkball that acts a lot like the Knuckler.
He jams it right back between his first and middle fingers and doesn't pull back on any seams, so the ball comes out with very little rotation
on it... like the Knuckler.
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rmoretti23
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| posted on 4-28-2004 at 08:55 PM |
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Forky
Theberm8054 throws a forkball that does everything he ever wanted his knuckler to do. The first time I saw it I thought he was throwing his kball
really hard. He actually modeled his grip after Jose Contreras, who throws a forkball that sometimes has no spin, although Jose calls it a splitter.
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KnucklerHQ-Dave
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| posted on 5-2-2004 at 12:34 AM |
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Split Decision
The only real difference between a splitter and forkball is what the pitcher wants to call it.
Toad Ramsey is credited with throwing the first pitch in the majors with knuckleball-like action. He rested his useless middle finger atop the ball
and gripped it wide with the index and ring fingers... which pretty much is a forkball, and actually pretty easy to grip for most anyone.
A hard forkball/splitter, if it rotates little, may shiver and shake and dart side-to-side, then sink. Consider it a knuckleball with some giddyup.
Throw it for strikes and you have yourself a nice versatile pitch.
--Dave C.
Message to Bill O'Reilly: Sorry, but THIS is the "No Spin Zone!"
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KnucklerHQ-Dave
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| posted on 5-2-2004 at 12:37 AM |
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Splitsville
Minor correction: In most cases, a splitter is gripped just outside the seams and a forkball is gripped at 3 & 9 with the insides of two hurting
fingers (unless you have big hands). Depending on your delivery, however, you can often get similar action, and you'll always get little
rotation and a lot of sink.
--Dave C.
Message to Bill O'Reilly: Sorry, but THIS is the "No Spin Zone!"
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lesclaypool61
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| posted on 5-2-2004 at 01:58 AM |
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yea my forkball is gripped at 3 and 9 and i do have big hands  (i am over 6'2" ) I get very random spin on it but never more than 2 to 3
rotations going to the plate
[Edited on 5-2-2004 by lesclaypool61]
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xpell
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| posted on 5-10-2004 at 12:36 AM |
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anybody got any pictures of prefered grips of the splitter or fork....i'm about 5' 7" with fairly good sized hands....and i
can't seem to find any good pictures on how to grip the ball
"We Believe" - Red Sox Nation
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lesclaypool61
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| posted on 5-11-2004 at 11:23 PM |
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this is the closest to a good picture as i could find...
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brew/image/pitches/hand1.jpg
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TheLegend
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| posted on 5-12-2004 at 09:15 PM |
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Akward pitch for me
I have trouble releasing this pitch for strikes i prefer the knuckleball for its floating quality as opposed to a folk with wobbly spaztic action most
look at this pitch and let it go by for a ball. The KBall looks so innocent floating in then it just drops like a bomb at their feet.
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thesalminator
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| posted on 5-13-2004 at 04:43 AM |
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there is a diffrence
spliters are held just outside of the seams )( and the fork the fingers are spread apart and the thumb pushes up the ball comes up on the thumb at the
time of release. and splitters drop less than a fork ball,
that is my opinion and i do call my fork ball a splitter but after studing Hideo Nomo he throws a splitter and a fork ball.
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TheLegend
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| posted on 5-13-2004 at 10:10 PM |
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They Are Retarded pitches to throw unless you throw it like a pro. If you Too much spin it becomes a slow junky pitch.
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xpell
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| posted on 5-18-2004 at 04:28 PM |
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i keep on throwing it...and it keeps on just slipping outta my hands way too high into my release....but i'm afraid if i hold it too tight to
release it lower it'll give the ball too much spin
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