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posted on 12-23-2006 at 05:30 PM Reply With Quote

I am confused on how you throw a knuckle curve. Is it supposed to have a lot of downward rotation or not so much? Can someone explain this pitch to me.

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posted on 12-23-2006 at 06:11 PM Reply With Quote
I've tried the K-curve, with some small succes. What I understand is that you hold it like a normal curve ball, but with you index finger curled up, holding that finger as if you were throwing a kball. Throw it like a curve. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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posted on 12-24-2006 at 01:17 AM Reply With Quote
There are many disagreements that come with this pitch. Some say that the way you described it is the correct knuckle curve, others say it is a spike curve. The same people that say that what you are explaining is a spike curve say that the real knuckle curve is what Burt Hooten threw. He held his like a 2-seam fastball, tucked his pointer and middle fingers right behind the seams and when he threw it, he pushed out with those fingers giving it at much topspin as he could getting it to drop like crazy. Try that and see what kind of results you get. I threw it like that and I get better vertical drop with it. Either way, I would say it can be called the knuckle curve.

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posted on 2-13-2007 at 12:58 AM Reply With Quote
^^ I consider that a knuckle ball

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posted on 2-14-2007 at 12:51 AM Reply With Quote
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^^ I consider that a knuckle ball

Well, it's close. A knuckleball thrown with a lot of forward spin is really a different beast from a knuckleball, but it's in the same family. Hooten (and RA Dickey, who later threw the same pitch) called their pitches "the thang" because it was so unusual.

Another way to think of this is that there is a difference between a curve and a slurve and a slider--although no one could tell you exactly where the dividing lines are. Similarly, there is a difference between a knuckle-curve and a kunckleball.

One reason, of course, that Hooten's pitch was so unusual was that the spike curve had been employed for decades and requires a good deal less finesse.

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