lefty47
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| posted on 11-8-2005 at 01:41 AM |
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Slurve OR Slider
Does anyone know the difference between a curverball/slider and a slurve??
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KBallFanatic
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| posted on 11-8-2005 at 02:13 AM |
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A Curveball has a straight over the top downward spin to it which causes the nasty 12-6 break
A Slider has more of a doorknob clockwise rotation and breaks to the left and down. it is also thrown alot harder (maybe 5-10 mph diff then
fastball)
A Slurve is kinda a hybrid of the two. think of it as having a diagonal topspin and breaks from like 1:30 - 7:30 or similar
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lefty47
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| posted on 11-8-2005 at 04:25 AM |
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thanks for helping me. and would anyone kno how to throw one i would like to learn.
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IMO a slurve is just a bad curve or slider, a slider is supposed to have sharp break and a curve needs to have that straight over the top downspin.
The slurve has neither so it tends to be not as effective b/c it almost stays on the same plane has the bat, making it more hittable.
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KBallFanatic
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not necessarily....Clemente throws a slurve and is very successful with it. a slurve can be just as succesful as a slider or breaker. it only breaks
differently is all
| <-- curve- straight up and down
/ <--slurve angled more
- <-- slider
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Bye1918
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According to IcarusComplex, KRod throws a slurve.
After seeing that thing, I can't say that a slurve is a bad pitch.
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| posted on 11-10-2005 at 06:26 PM |
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I call K-Rod's pitch a curve, but you guys are entitled to your own opinion
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jt339
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| posted on 11-10-2005 at 09:33 PM |
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If it is the sidespin that makes it drop, then it is a slider. If you're saying that its the straight drop that makes it a curveball, then
splitters, forkballs, change ups, and sinkers could be curveballs.
I don't mean this to sound like I'm slamming you or something like that. I would like to hear though why you think it is a curveball.
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| posted on 11-11-2005 at 01:38 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jt339
If it is the sidespin that makes it drop, then it is a slider. If you're saying that its the straight drop that makes it a curveball, then
splitters, forkballs, change ups, and sinkers could be curveballs.
I don't mean this to sound like I'm slamming you or something like that. I would like to hear though why you think it is a curveball.
I consider something like Brad Lidge throws a slider becuase it is only 5-8 mph off the fastball and has a hard late break, not necessrily drop.
K-Rod's pitch is more like 15 or so MPH off his fastball, A bigger difference, so I call it a curveball because of that.
What I consider a slurve is something like Jeff Weaver throws. It breaks along the same plane that the bat moves through the zone, not really like a
curveball would, thats just the way I think about it.
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